[pdimitar]

I believe many nation leaders, especially those who ruled in very tumultuous times, would absolutely love it if war was not an option but alas, we have to comply with reality. We've also seen what happens to pacifists, sooner or later they get conquered.

[JumpCrisscross]

> We've also seen what happens to pacifists, sooner or later they get conquered

Do you have a historical example?

[camkego]

You’ll have to form your own conclusions, but the history of the Māori tribes is often presented as an example of this. Their history is often presented as an example of pacifists vs aggressors.