[XorNot]

I straight up do not care a about plastic use at all anymore.

Specifically: provided the plastic is going to well-managed landfill, and not being washed into the oceans or waterways, then really, what is the problem? Once in landfill it's CO2 which won't end up in the atmosphere, or water, or really doing much of anything while it just sits there.

And every bit of it is oil production which won't be burned.

[mattmaroon]

Yes, it's an environmental red herring. I do outdoor events and I do not allow plastic straws there because they end up in nature. Plastic in nature is obviously bad. Landfills are cheap, plentiful, and safe (even tested regularly for leachate) in the industrialized world.

And more importantly, the people who actually DO pollute by the ton want you to be more worried about your straws than the laws that allow them to do it. Don't fall for it.

[heavyset_go]

> And every bit of it is oil production which won't be burned.

Some plastics get incinerated, it isn't all sequestered in landfills.

[XorNot]

> provided the plastic is going to well-managed landfill

Hence this qualifier. In my region, my trash goes to landfill. I've been to landfill! It's a modern design with stabilized storage cells, you can see them excavating it as they expand.