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by marshallward 761 days ago
> “The pyramids seem like pretty monumental work”

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“Cutting-edge psychological research suggests that pharaohs may have suffered from megalomania”
"Breaking news - older civilizations than currently have been found may have had most evidence of their existence wiped out by major events"
Megalomania is characterized by delusion.
I'm willing to entertain the idea that the god kings had some delusions
If they're indulged by society as a whole, are they delusions?
Does believing someone to be a god make them a god?
When someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!
When a category of godness is defined as being a pharao, well yes...
First define “god”.
It's the "god" part of "god king" that was the delusion, and all of the wasted effort that went into ensuring the Pharoah's resurrection and immortality after death. And yes, it's a delusion regardless of how many people believe in it.
To some degree, the practice of state religion exists to ensure the stability of the state, especially in pre-mass communication times.

To that, so what if the "god" part was a lie?

A stable society built on an unfalsifiable lie is still a stable society.

>>all of the wasted effort that went into ensuring the Pharoah's resurrection and immortality after death.

How do you know that it didn’t work? What if it wasn’t a waste?

But it is a role they believe he fills.

If we all have the delision that you can fly with the power of your mind that is still a delusion. Because one can perform an experiment and see that you in fact can’t fly with the power of your mind.

But if we all believe that you are the eastern bunny, or the coolest dude on the planet, or the twice crowned poet laurate, those are social constructs. We believe you are the eastern bunny and that makes you the eastern bunny, and that’s no longer a delusion.

I think your hang up is that you have a set of expectations you think a “god” should fulfill, and clearly the pharao did not fulfill them. And that is an objective fact. But there is no reason to expect that the ancient Egyptians shared your expectations about what a god is.

> ensuring the Pharoah's resurrection and immortality after death

That does not sound correct. I don’t think they believed that the Pharao will walk again after he died. That is what the world “resurection” would imply. Their belief was that there is some form of afterlife where you need to perform certain rituals. The pyramids and the treasures were there to aid the pharao in peforming those rituals so he can obtain a better position in the afterlife.

I thought they had all sorts of in breeding going on in royal lines. That does tend to cause somes issues including mental ones.
If I recall, there was a bit of sibling marriage here and there, but it wasn't until the Greeks took over that they really started inbreeding.
"I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party."
We like to think everyone was dumb but I'm pretty sure if those dudes could build pyramids, a lot of them also knew the Pharaoh wasn't a God even if lots of people believed, same as today with religions or cult of personality leaders.
I think you might be bringing our mindset a little too much into a different context. Religion served a lot of purposes for the ancients.
They didn’t need to actually believe it to indulge the pharaoh.
The Pharaoh wasn't a god, it was a ruler. I think they had the sun and other elements as "God". Kinda makes sense to praise the sun as it makes their agriculture go.