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by doctor_eval 758 days ago
> Los Angeles, a thriving metropolis with a population and economy larger than Australia’s

When did LA become a city of 26 million?

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California's population is larger than Australia's. But yeah, LA's specifically is about half (give or take)
This gives Southern California including LA a listing as a single supercity population 24.4 million which is close but not quite there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megalopolises

That’s a goddamned stretch if ever there was one. SoCal is more or less a recognizable region in California, and does indeed have almost 24M people, but nobody sane would call it a megalopolis without some weird agenda I can’t quite figure out.

Los Angeles is a city of about 3.9M. LA County is well, apparently experiencing some population decline because last I checked this was a little over 11M, but apparently as of 2023 is around 9.6M. If you count all the urban areas that touch, are surrounded by or very very close by without driving out into the bloody desert, “greater” LA, 18.4M is probably a reasonably close figure. Some of what’s on Wikipedia’s map is a stretch though. The further East you go, the more rural California gets until you’re either in Clark County or Arizona.

San Diego though is by no means part of that. It’s a large city in its own right and going downtown to downtown, you’re talking at least between 2 and 2.5 hours driving. You can also just fly, on a regular commercial airline.

A megalopolis isn't characterized by a placename and an airport. It's characterized by continuous development. You can drive from Ventura to Yucaipa to to Temecula to Rosarito Beach in Mexico, and the only time you'd need to get a mile away from of high-density development is 5 miles of I-15 in a mountain pass, or 10 miles of coastal highway, both to span the Santa Ana Mountains (property of the US Forest Service / Cleveland National Forest for the most part).

The Los Angeles Conurbation is about to swallow the northern Imperial Valley as well, because the I-10 corridor is made up of flat sandy dirt that could be a suburban back yard.

> A megalopolis (/ˌmɛɡəˈlɒpəlɪs/) or a supercity,[1] also called a megaregion,[2] is a group of metropolitan areas which are perceived as a continuous urban area through common systems of transport, economy, resources, ecology, and so on.[2] They are integrated enough that coordinating policy is valuable, although the constituent metropolises keep their individual identities.[2]

2 hours driving, in the US, is a natural distance for complementary but distinct cities to form. NYC/Philly/DC, SF/San Jose, LA/SD.

Megapolis is the correct term.

How is Tijuana, Mexico part of the Southern California megalopolis? That doesn't make much sense and I wouldn't consider San Diego part of the LA/OC megalopolis either, especially since there's a mountain range separating them with not much civilization in between.

Either way, we've got enough people to invade Australia and no Kokoda Trail is going to help them this time! We must get a plan to Gavin Newsom’s desk at once. The Koala mines will be ours!

The only thing that stops San Diego from being connected to LA/OC is the Camp Pendleton Marine base for about 7 miles. Basically you can go from Tijuana all the way up the coast to LA and only have that stretch not populated with civilians.
San Diego and Tijuana used to be one region that was cut in half by the Mexican-American war of 1846.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_California

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego–Tijuana

Australia pre infiltrated California with eucalyptus sleeper groves decades ago ... one tossed ciggie and Cali's toast.
I guess the huge wildfires in Australia a few years ago were a dry run?
Like the Trinity test on home soil before unleashing hell in Japan . . .

It's all true! We've even planted counter intell to misdirect!

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/science-envir...

Wikipedia for Greater Los Angeles gives 18.4 million, so closer to 70%.
Australia's population is now meant to be 27 million.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-24/australias-population...