[localfirst]

We have to take account that this community (good chunk have stakes in YC and a lot to gain from secondary shares in OpenAI) and platform is going to favor its own and be aware that Sam Altman is the golden boy of YC's founder after all.

So of course you are going to see snarky comments and straight up denial in the competition. We saw that yesterday in the comments with the release of GPT4o in anticipation of Gemini 2.0 (GPT-5 basically) release being announced today at Google I/O

I'm SORA to say Veo looks much more polished without jank.

Big congratulations to Google and their excellent AI team for not editing their AI generated videos like SORA

[baobabKoodaa]

> We have to take account that this community (good chunk have stakes in YC and a lot to gain from secondary shares in OpenAI)

You have to be pretty deep inside your own little bubble to think that even more than a 0.001% of HN has "stakes in YC" or "secondary shares in OpenAI".

[hu3]

It can be a vocal minority. Still vocal.

I wouldn't discard.

[dylan604]

I have 0% stake in any YC, and I'm very vocal in my negativity against any of these "AI" anythings. All of these announcements are only slighty more than a toddler anxious to show the parental units a finger painting looking to hang it on the fridge. Only instead of the fridge, they are a hoping to get funding/investment knowing that their product is not a fully fledged anything. It's comical.

[JumpCrisscross]

> platform is going to favor its own and be aware that Sam Altman is the golden boy of YC's founder

I don’t know if there is a sentiment analysis tool for HN, but I’m pretty sure it’s been dead negative for Altman since at least Worldcoin.

[cosmotron]

Something in this vein was just posted here a few days back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40307519

[saalweachter]

A land of contrasts, etc.

[mrbungie]

The amount of copium in this response is astounding.

Yes, there is a noticeable negative response from HN towards Google, and there has always been especially when speaking about their weird product management practices and incentives. Google hasn't launched any notable (and still surviving, Stadia being a sad example of this) consumer product or service in the last 10 years.

But to suggest there is a Sam Altman / OpenAI bias is delusional. In most posts about them there is at least some kind of skepticism or criticism towards Altman (his participation in Worldcoin and his accelerationist stance towards AGI) or his companies (OpenAI not being really open).

PS: I would say most people lurking here are just hackers (of many kinds, but still hackers), not investors with shady motives.

[astrange]

> Google hasn't launched any notable (and still surviving, Stadia being a sad example of this) consumer product or service in the last 10 years.

Google Photos is less than 10 years old and I think a lot of people use it.

[localfirst]

My argument wasn't that there was a cabal of shady investors trying to influence perception here. your observation is certainly valid there is general disdain for Google but specifically I'm calling out people that were blatantly telling lies and making outlandish claims and attacking others who were simply pointing out that some of those people have financial motives (either being backed by YC or seek to benefit from the work of others).

None of this is surprising to me and shouldn't shock you. You are literally on a site called Ycombinator. Had this been another platform without ties to investments or drawing from crowd that actively seeks to enrich themselves through participation in a narrative, this wouldn't even be a thing.

Large number of people who read my comment seems to agree and this whole worldcoin thing seems to me just another distraction (We've already been through why that was shady but we are talking about something different here).

[mrbungie]

Well, you have a point. I've always thought that Hacker News <> YCombinator, but maybe the truth is in the middle. At the very least, this is food for thought.

[betternet77]

Yup, there's a significant anti-Google spin in HN, twitter. For example, here's paulg claiming that Cruise handles driving around cyclists better than Waymo [1], obviously not true to anyone who's used both services

[1] https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1360341492850708481