[JeremyNT]

I agree with this take.

It's not like the power users who currently use Firefox and yet dislike this stuff are going to switch away from Firefox, since there's nothing to switch to other than Chrome, which is clearly worse.

Personal anecdote, I didn't like Pocket being added to Firefox, but eventually I did start using it - only because it came from Mozilla. And I currently pay Mozilla money for Relay (along with VPN), which are examples of them expanding outside of their core browser features.

[JumpCrisscross]

> not like the power users who currently use Firefox and yet dislike this stuff are going to switch away from Firefox

Not a Firefox power user, but also not a fan of having to learn through HN that I need to disable some random opt-in to not have my browsing leaked by my browser. Was genuinely on the fence about deleting it and simplifying to Safari.

[threecheese]

IMO this holds Firefox to an impossible standard; it is vanishingly unlikely that Safari doesn’t perform this same type of user research and data collection, for search utilization wrt their relationship with Google and for other features of the browser. Your point about being surprised by this is certainly valid, if this is indeed opt-out/in by default.

[riedel]

I am a happy user of LibreWolf: they do the opt out for me. On android I use mull. I have to say that I am quite happy and really do not understand everyone moving to chromium based browsers.

[JohnFen]

> It's not like the power users who currently use Firefox and yet dislike this stuff are going to switch away from Firefox

Sure they do. I know a lot that have, anyway. I'm one of a tiny percentage of my tech circle who uses it anymore.

[Sammi]

I will switch away from Firefox to Ladybird as soon as Ladybird is half as good as Firefox.