[MattGaiser]

> Personally, I'd see "privacy first" as not needing to sell any user data at all, in the first place, but we're clearly beyond that already.

That requires users paying, something often suggested, but I have not heard of working commercially for anything where a competitor can supply a user as the product alternate. Privacy just isn't that valuable.

[autoexec]

> That requires users paying

That's clearly not a solution either since expensive products and services with subscriptions still routinely collect every scrap of data they can get their hands on. Companies will always make more money by violating your privacy while also charging you as much as they possibly can so that's exactly what they do.

[beretguy]

I think a small fee subscription can be very attractive. Less than $5 a month. I already pay $5/month for better search experience. Sometimes Kagi finds things neither DDG nor Brave can.