[viraptor]

They won't be late. There's a significant amount of people who cannot use macs for work. If Qualcomm succeeds with the x86 translation, they'll still be the only real option for that segment, even if they're behind M4.

(Also likely for people who don't have $$$ to throw around for hardware)

[klausa]

I think if you expect these to land in budget devices; you're going to be sorely disappointed.

[cjk2]

They're going to end up in extremely shit high end devices which will be canned after 6 months of poor sales and bad reviews.

[speed_spread]

Microsoft _might_ make interesting Surface models out of it and price them in a somewhat reasonable fashion. Bad reviews will be done by people expecting x86/M4 performance with Windows and MacOS. But what is needed is non-Mac stable and open ARM Linux platform that is more powerful than a RPi5.

[mmaniac]

It's always the same song and dance with Windows on ARM.

[viraptor]

I don't expect the first one to do that. But the next ones definitely. And it doesn't have to be "budget" straight away; there's a whole range of "normal" prices between that and Apple.

[ffgjgf1]

The chips themselves are reportedly quite cheap relative to comparable Intel CPUs.