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by darkwater 764 days ago
Let's try to enumerate possible causes for short tenures:

* Actual job was not the thing promised in the interview

* Hired person and work environment do not "click"

* Got a better paid offer after N months

* Hired person was not up to the task and fired

* Work environment was toxic

* Hired person was toxic

And probably a few more. In all these cases, IMO there is a much bigger responsibility on the company,because they are the stronger side and the one that has the last word on hiring someone. So, it ends up being manager's fault. Having been a hiring manager myself, I can only excuse the manager in the case of a really, really, good faker during the interview phase. But those are not the norm.
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RestlessMind 764 days ago
> and the one that has the last word on hiring someone

False. A lot of times, companies make an offer which are then rejected by a candidate because they have another better offer. Maybe not in 2024, but it was very common until 2022.

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darkwater 764 days ago
Candidates have the last word in NOT joining a company. But only companies have the last word on hiring someone.
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RestlessMind 763 days ago
If you wanna split hairs - "Hiring" happens only when a contract is signed between a candidate and a company. A candidate can choose not to sign, thus preventing hiring process to complete.

In the spirit of the overall thread, specifically re: your comment "IMO there is a much bigger responsibility on the company,because they are the stronger side and the one that has the last word on hiring someone." - a company is not always on the stronger side. In 2021, a lot of workers had the upper hand.

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darkwater 762 days ago
It still doesn't matter that much when talking about short average tenure. Obviously in a hot market it is going to be more complicated for companies to retain talent, but being a successful company is not an easy task in any case.
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surajrmal 764 days ago
Average tenure does not indicate how long someone lasted before leaving the company. If you double the company size in a year you've almost certainly suppressed average tenure to below a year.
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darkwater 764 days ago
Yes but a hiring frenzy can end in a) company is successful enough and keep the headcount as it was b) not A
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