[bee_rider]

Does Java have acolytes?

It might have before, like, 2005 when it became the default “intro to programming” language. And it might get some now that Python has taken that job. But for a while it was the “minimum requirements: fulfilled” of programming languages. There’s a lot to be said for fulfilling minimum requirements but that doesn’t tend to inspire evangelism.

It is a perfectly fine language in as much as I saw, that must be why it was selected for the sad fate of being many overwhelmed students’ first language.

[vundercind]

Yeah, since the ‘90s, and still does in this thread. They’re usually going around insisting you ignore that your lying eyes can consistently spot Java programs by their incredible memory bloat and poor performance, and that actually it has great performance (in some synthetic benchmarks).

I do think they’ve gained a little credibility now that we’ve inexplicably decided Electron is a serious platform and not an April Fool’s joke.