[afiori]

Whatsapp being e2e is almost (but not entirely) worthless, it tells me that they are likely not training LLMs on my messages, but I have zero trust of their safety from client-side backdoors.

The security of e2e cannot be higher than the security of the clients

[jacooper]

That's a different conversation, I doubt you can really trust telegram either.

Also don't forget that most people back their stuff to Google Drive/iCloud anyways, so it's not like it's impossible to access.