[throwbadubadu]

Not so easy: For whom is this a good thing, and for whom not?

[zer00eyz]

I wrote the above so I'll elaborate.

It's good for everyone.

Right now if you want to build a top tier AI lab in the states VISAS are gonna be an issue. One that a good HR team will dance around and you might get 60 percent of the foreign nationals you wanted. Just drop the pretense and hand them a visa to work here. Now you have chinese, Indians, euros, africans all top of class working in the same lab in the STATES... 5 years later they green card and then the bulk of them stay. Their kids become Americans.

Or keep it the way it is... and dont build those teams.

Do you think this changes hiring at google? They have Indian offices, they could just hire teams there and pay them NO markup rather than us salaries.... Same thing with every other major tech firm out there.

The majority of the teams I have worked on had H1Bs and green card holders in them. I call many of those people my friends and am happy that most of them became Americans.

[wryoak]

But then this just contributes to brain drain in their home countries.

America maybe secures a chance to remain highly competitive, highly wealthy, but at the expense often of developing nations’ development

[zer00eyz]

This is the whole point of the program.

[nitwit005]

If you're actually looking the bring genuine AI exerts in, the government is extremely likely to say yes, as Biden issued an executive order to do so:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-action... (Sec. 5. Promoting Innovation and Competition.)

https://ai.gov/immigrate/

[roenxi]

> For whom is this a good thing, and for whom not?

Potentially literally everyone is better off. That happens sometimes in economics. Everyone not in STEM is better off and if the STEM people think they are getting a bad deal they can go do something else that is getting a good deal.

[throwbadubadu]

Understood, as everyone is better off with late stage neoliberal predator capitalism I guess :D

[roenxi]

I get the impression you might be trying for sarcasm, but unironically yes. People living in "late stage neoliberal predator capitalism" are, despite it all, still usually much better off than people outside it. I'd still rather be poor in the US than China, for example.