[criddell]

The M1 used in the original MacBook Air has a TDP of around 10 watts. I don't track this closely, but AFAIK there aren't any good performing chips on the PC side of the world that can beat that.

I don't really track this directly, but periodically I look for passively cooled (fanless) laptops. I haven't looked into Ryzen, but it would be a very nice surprise if there are fanless Ryzen laptops out there.

[Kuinox]

TDP is a lie. M1 can draw up to 100W. https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...

[criddell]

The real world implications of these number matter more than the numbers themselves.

If you tell me TDP is a lie, I’ll believe you.

However, that doesn’t change the fact that there still aren’t any great fanless laptops from anybody other than Apple. I was attributing it to TDP, but maybe it’s something else.

[lonjil]

Did you paste the wrong link? That is about M1 Max, which is a very different, much bigger, chip.

[Kuinox]

Indeed the M1 not max draw 30W max, there is a link in the article I sent, my mistake.