[alephnerd]

> why I love birth rates declining: makes labor scarce and forces the better treatment of those still in the labor force

I'd like to have Social Security benefits in 30-40 years tbh, so not a fan of potentially declining birth rates. That said, immigration is absolutely our superpower, and something we need to support.

[toomuchtodo]

We see the world differently, but I don’t fault your incentives and desired outcome. I see this as an empowerment and agency issue in a suboptimal economic system (working humans hard or to death without a lot of options, depending on jurisdiction, treating humans as a resource to extract from, broadly speaking).

(I am bootstrapping a non profit to buy unwanted fertility, funded through carbon markets; bias disclosed)

[tharmas]

Immigration? You mean third world immigration like Canada?

Swedes and Canadians would like to have a word with you.

[alephnerd]

My parents were those "third world immigrants" as is my SO who is an MD.

Despite being the son of those "third world immigrants" I've funded companies and built products that have most likely protected your employer from nation states attacks by "third world" countries like Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea, and have absolutely protected NATO+.

Go crawl back into your hole and don't come out.

[tharmas]

So ur a westerner. When a country brings in mass immigration all at once and insist on multi culturalism what do think that does to the recipient country?

Could u have started those companies in ur parents origin country?

[trallnag]

There are always exceptions to the norm