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by diputsmonro 764 days ago
Would you prefer a world wherein people aren't allowed to speak their mind instead?

Stop being so sensitive about people "being sensitive" and engage in the discussion instead of dismissing it.

All this complaining about "cancel culture" is just complaining that other people are using their freedom of speech in a way that you don't like. This is what freedom is speech means - disagreement. Stop whining about people disagreeing with you. Either address the arguments they're making to further the conversation, or deal with it.

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It's fine to voice opinions but why does Apple feel it needs to apologize? No animals were harmed, no protected groups offended. Apple could have just internally said, "well that one kinda didn't work well",pull the ad and move on.
They don't need to. But they offended their main target demographic, so it's probably a good business move to try to regain their trust.
I'd prefer a world where people recognize their opinions are childish and keep it to themselves.
People posting their opinions on Twitter does you no harm. Mute or block of you must, and move on.
Imagine if every Twitter user followed that advice
Ok, but disagreeing is not what cancel culture is.

It’s attacking someone relentlessly, canceling their contracts, getting them fired, kicked out of institutions, debanked.

I’m not sure if you are pretending to not know that, or really just don’t know anything on the topic at all. But either way, it’s kind of showing your cards.

People complaining on Twitter don't have the power to fire/remove anybody. All they can do is spread allegations. If those allegations are true and bad enough that your employers or associates want to disassociate themselves with you, that is your (or your associates') fault, not the whistleblowers'.

Employers don't just fire you because a Twitter mob told them to. They do it because they learned about your bad behavior and no longer have faith in you.

If you don't like being fired: - Don't do stuff your employers will find distasteful - Vote for candidates to end at-will employment and give stronger employee rights

> People complaining on Twitter don't have the power to fire/remove anybody.

So, start off with a blatant misdirection. They shouldn’t, but the evidence is this works.

> that is your (or your associates') fault, not the whistleblowers

Frame cancel culture as a noble effort, ok, go on…

> Don't do stuff your employers will find distasteful - Vote for candidates to end at-will employment and give stronger employee rights

Just don’t disagree with liberals and vote the way they want you to! SIMPLE SOLUTION! Why didn’t I think of that!?

There you go again, complaining about my argument instead of refuting it.

It's not about liberals or conservatives, it's about ordinary people not liking things and spreading the word, ideally so people with the power to change things hear it. Conservatives cancel too, e.g. the Bud Light / Dylan Mulvaney boycott.

Showing my cards? What cards?

Things seem to escalate quite quickly now with no rationale. There seem to be no middle ground these days. My reference to cancel culture is that while it isn't there yet, Apple may have felt the need to apologize before it got there.

When people make dumb arguments and overreact, its perfectly fine to make fun of them for it.

I don't think the world is going to end because some people are upset about an ad.

But I absolutely am going to laugh at and belittle those who are having an extreme and irrational emotional reaction to something this dumb.

> Either address the arguments they're making to further the conversation, or deal with it.

You missed the other option. Dismiss them and make them feel bad and embarrassed for overreacting.

If you prefer to be a jerk, that's certainly an option, yes. Just don't be surprised or blame "cancel culture" when the people you belittle stop inviting you to parties.