[grecy]

> The issue is that a lot of countries have based everything around growth, including population

And it is very, very ,very clear this is a horribly stupid and shortsighted thing to do. It is simply impossible to have constant growth, clearly it is unsustainable.

The system HAS to change. It might be from a slow and steady decline, or it might be a very abrupt change, but it's going to change one way or another.