[giantg2]

"wow, one year in jail just for trespassing"

Many western states have much stricter views on property rights and trespassing than the coasts. The penalties are generally higher even if not dealing with this specific scenario. Even regular ID trespassing law can carry 6mo-1y jail time depending on the circumstances, etc.

One often overlooked thing that isn't particularly applicable in this case is the biosecurity aspect involved in agricultural trespassing. Even trespassing in agricultural areas without taking pictures can carry higher penalties in many states.

[whimsicalism]

in other states, these penalties only exist for slaughterhouses, if you broke into a Beyond meat factory and filmed you wouldn’t be eligible for same penalties

[giantg2]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Most of the agricultural trespassing, disruption, etc laws don't just apply to slaughterhouses, but also include the farms and such. Many states have general secret recording that apply to nearly all scenarios if you're referring to recording. If you're talking about just trespass, if you "broke" into a beyond meat facility you would in fact face similar penalties in other western states with similar property rights culture. I believe even the ID law would result in 6-12mo maximum jail if you broke into the factory (might even qualify as burglary with higher penalties depending on specifics).

[whimsicalism]

Utah at least specifically only protected things like slaughterhouses. I am not familiar.

The penalties in these laws are higher than just generic secret recording.

[giantg2]

I think both depend on which state.

Do you have the law that prevents the recording in UT? I only see the tresspassing law. Which by the way, would appear to be a class B misdemeanor if it was agricultural land or if it was a building (same for both your examples).

[whimsicalism]

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter6/76-6-S112.html

I wasn't trying to distinguish between land and building, mostly just that they are about recording and specifically animal operations.

I'm almost certain Utah is not the only state that specifically has laws around recording and specifically for animal operations that go beyond just generic trespass, but I don't have time right now to dive in.

[giantg2]

Ok, thanks for the link. Based on that information it seems generic tresspass and the agricultural interference laws carry similar penalties depending on the circumstances. Both are either class A or class B misdemeanors.

[HeyLaughingBoy]

> if you broke into a Beyond meat factory you wouldn’t be eligible

You're saying that there wouldn't be penalties for breaking and entering?

[whimsicalism]

You would not have as high penalties if it wasn’t an animal facility and you were filming.

[giantg2]

Do you have the law on that? It seems your example in Utah would be class B misdemeanors for trespass in either scenario. I didn't see any law specifically about recording slaughterhouses.

[whimsicalism]

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter6/76-6-S112.html

also linked in other comment

[giantg2]

Based on that link, tresspass in non animal facilities carry similar penalties (both either class A or class B misdemeanors depending on specifics).