[nanna]

A month or so ago a ship filled with 19,000 Brazilian cattle destined for the Middle East docked in Cape Town. The cows were living in such horrendous conditions that the stink of the ship took over the entire city. Living in pools of excrement, sick, lame, pregnant and even dead cows among them. The South African animal protection service had to put many down.

It's easy, its right to blame the Bolsonaro regime for having ramped up cattle farming in the Amazon leading to situations like this. It's harder to think of them when we have beef on our plates.

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/seven-h...

[hpestyghr]

In this specific case, it's because Middle Eastern countries want live imports due to halal requirements.

Live exports should be entirely banned.

[nanna]

Don't see why halal needs live imports. The main thing is theyre slaughtered in a halal way. Presumably it's just cheaper to ship them live (or just about) to the middle east and then slaughter them there than send halal qualified slaughters to Brazil and then ship over frozen meat.

Also, don't think it's right to let Brazil off the hook here - it's their cattle ranching practices and export legislation.

[mtnGoat]

It’s really profitable to. I know a Greek fella that transports goats in bulk and has said it’s very profitable due to not many ships fitted to do it well.