[reducesuffering]

If you want to throw out the data because it doesn’t suit your bias, fine, ultimately it’s your safety on the line based on your decision, so you better hope you’re correctly evaluating.

But I also think it’s odd that you think NYC is underreporting murders and not going after serious crimes, when if you go into rural areas, you’ll find many that are a few Sheriffs stretched thin over hundreds of miles, and infinite more potential for “murders going unnoticed.”

https://magazine.atavist.com/outlaw-country-klamath-county-o...

Paints a picture

[elzbardico]

Lol man. I live now in northern Europe. You can show me any stupid number you want, I am not an idiot. I know NYC, it is a fucking hell hole.

Averages, per-capita, even if we could trust the data, and we definitely can't because NY government is a cesspool of corruption means absolutely nothing, because every one who lives in the real world knows that violence is not uniformly distributed. You can lie to yourself as much as you want, it is your choice, but I've seen this movie before, that's how things start, and them there's a moment when even people like you can't deny it anymore, but it will only get there exactly because of folks like you that prefer to live in the bizarre illusion that being a member of your ideological bubble makes you a high status person.

People like you make me remember the old soviet joke when they get astounded with the faith Americans had in their media, because the soviets at least were able to recognize propaganda for what it is.

[reducesuffering]

Poor psychoanalyzing since I’m more often surrounded by the types who would knee jerk agree with you. I’m more likely (and do) to get shit on for dare questioning how truly awful big cities are, so I’d love some of that “high status” you think I’m feeling. Still, I’d rather poke hills in peoples’ poor kneejerk understanding of the world with investigating what the data tells us is actually going on, regardless of whether the opinion is popular. And it’s not, evidenced by the many people here, even on a more urban intellectual environment.

[wolverine876]

Why is it important to assert that or believe it? Lots of people - I'd say almost everyone - from NY will tell you otherwise.