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I’d love to see your sources showing the data to support that books are being banned in “all libraries”.

This is mostly a conversation about morality and I dont think we’re going to convince one another to change our principles here so my instinct is to say “you win” and move on.

But for context, I personally despise Donald Trump and think he’s a symbol of the downfall of our country. And I mostly think the government should stay out of any choices about how we raise our kids.

The books in school libraries issue is part of a larger discussion about who gets to choose what our kids learn. I don’t have the full answer but I do know, for my kids, it is not “gender studies graduates and communists”.

[sonicanatidae]

Sources: The internet and news. If you look, you'll find it easily.

This isn't really about morality alone, imo. This is about attempting to legislate morality with a hammer, which is just as bad. There is no basis for many of the books being banned, other than Republican horse shit. For the record, I'm not seeing Dems line up to ban books. It's activist clowns with an axe to grind.

It's all wrapped up in Jesus and FOR THE CHILDREN, but that's a lie as well.

I seriously doubt many 9 year olds checked out The Diary of Anne Frank, yet it's being banned, because some idiot thinks they know better than everyone else.

Since, you don't seem to google, I'll take care of this one for you: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2022/06/2...

We do agree on the govt. staying out of child rearing.

The current crop of "people" that get to choose what people can learn are not the people any sane person wants making these calls, yet here we are.

Lastly, your kids, along with everyone else's are exposed to things, daily, that you have zero control over. You have zero input, when the event happens. You're sole option is to teach your kids to think like rational humans, have some compassion for others, and lastly, just leave people alone to live their lives.

[quirk]

So did you read that USA Today article? I did not see a single example of a book being banned from a non-school library. In fact, every example in the article was about a book being removed from taught curriculum, or a state passing a law requiring schools to notify parents when a book contains a sexual content.

Your last point makes me think maybe you don’t have kids? Because yes of course every parents knows that they can’t control every aspect of their child’s experience. This discussion is specifically about what should and shouldn’t be in children’s libraries. I think parents should have a say in that. Kids are like sponges. If you tell them it’s totally normal to kill puppies, some not-insignificant percentage of them are gonna kill puppies.

I loved the book Middlesex, and have nothing against transgender people. My concern is that a “movement” has started around this naturally rare phenomenon and it has become increasingly trendy to cut off your penis or breasts. This is not what sane parents want for their children.

[sonicanatidae]

This is still about legislating morality, which has never worked, in any circumstance that I'm aware of. This is simply minority groups imposing their personal views upon everyone else.

Why does a minority group get to decide what books are available?

Why does a self-described religious minority get to impose their values upon everyone else, in a country founded, in part, on religious freedoms?

A simple example of the fallacy of book bans is the Bible. The bible covers things that most people would not want a 9-year old to read about, yet, it'll never be banned, because it's special. smh.

People can censor things all they like, at home, but shouldn't get to determine who gets to read what, based on their own personal POV.

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I’m pretty sure we are agreeing here. Transgender is a minority. Agreed on the Bible stuff too.