[bingbingbing777]

> millennial men, being the first generation with access to seemingly unlimited amounts of porn from a young age, are not a bunch of sexually deranged rapist

It's caused the complete opposite, they aren't having sex at all.

[Ardon]

True, but the causal link is hard to demonstrate. There's also a drop in friends, especially close friends. In-person social activity is down across the board.

Not that porn definitely isn't a factor, but I'm pretty certain there's larger factors at play.

[AnimalMuppet]

> True, but the causal link is hard to demonstrate.

Plausibly, they don't have a taste for sex with people who don't look like porn stars.

But as you say, demonstrating that as a causal link would be hard.

[loceng]

If porn is involved in that equation, it's not the primary or fundamental driver.

I'd argue inflammatory foods that have a depressant effect on the nervous system, especially damaging during development stages, along with where mainstream culture is directing people - along with government policy heavily captured by industrial complexes and bad actors (domestic and foreign) in general, will be the leading causes.

If we simply look at the shallow metric of "not having sex" vs. studying to see what's different between those who are and aren't having sex, aren't having children - that's not going to be very fruitful except for people to simply conclude "be attractive; don't be ugly;" attraction is far deeper than the skin, however in part I believe that the inflammatory-depressant state I mentioned is likely to block to a small or large degree, a person's stimulation and excitement from deeper signals and processes that would otherwise 1) make more people attractive to them, as a stronger signal overall - which will be motivating on its own, and 2) also provide nuance to help with targeting to have the nuanced signals to know-learn more accurately who you're actually most attracted to - from more breadth and depth, where you could argue it allows a person's intuition to flourish; rather than be stunted by inflammation, or past unprocessed/unhealed trauma causing people to avoid, etc.

[passwordoops]

Is it porn, or an additional effect of whatever has been decreasing sperm counts over the past century

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1393072/

[Lockal]

It is surprisingly easy to correlate continuously increasing and continuously decreasing functions

https://donhillson.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/link-found-betwe...

[passwordoops]

Sperm counts are going down for the better part of a century, and people are having less sex. Obviously coincendal and cannot related to each other in the least...

[canadiantim]

Who's to say that's not also attributable to porn, which after all causes a drop in sperm counts too

[passwordoops]

That the drop started in the 1940s

[soared]

More than likely not caused by porn but less in person social situations

[jauntywundrkind]

In jest I'd say it's caused not by porn but by Counter Strike.

Realistically I see much more issues with decay of Third Places (social meeting spaces) & decay of local society in general. But rather than have no culture & be bored, we have incredibly engaging interactive media to go engage in: CounterStrike or TikTok or whatever else.

I don't think these things are per se to blame. Cost of living being what it is, lots of people can't afford to go out to bars & clubs, one of the most traditional gathering spots for people. It's unclear what a lot of folks would change, what else they'd do, if the IT/media link they rely. on so heavily were to shut off.

[a4000]

that's the great male sedation hypothesis