[nabla9]

Proton Mail gives info only when the Swiss law mandates it and Swiss law enforcement requires it. Swiss privacy laws are quite good.

That's the strictest privacy policy any company can hope.

Proton Mail can't give email content, only things like email address, ip adressese etc.

[blitzar]

Proton Mail can give email content, however, it is encrypted and they do not have the encryption keys.

Anything that is stored by anyone can be handed over. That information may be useful, may be useless or may be useless now and useful tomorrow when they have the key.

[wepple]

> they do not have the encryption keys.

True, but they can trivially obtain them given they control everything in the browser.

The question then becomes, does the law allow compelling to that degree? Apple fought back in the San Bruno case, but they’re very well lawyered up

[kobalsky]

> True, but they can trivially obtain them given they control everything in the browser.

Open source clients that you can self-host are available. I mean of course you still have to trust the code if you can't audit it. But hijacking your keys won't be as easy as visiting their webmail.

[obelus]

But Swiss law can't make a request like that.

[wepple]

I would hope so, but is that confirmed?

Is there a clear definition between handing over data they have and being compelled to make modifications in order to intercept?