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by wakawaka28 773 days ago
How do you think they pick the basket? Many categories are included in CPI, such as housing. Regardless of whatever fudging they do, it is intended to measure the price increases that consumers experience.

>It is like that. That's literally what defines demand.

It is not. You have confused the essence of demand with the actual capability to pay. We could get nuanced about it and say that people who can't pay are not market participants, but they could be. If I can afford to pay $X for a house and the price is higher than that, my inability to buy does not mean my demand went anywhere.

>Perhaps you have confused "demand" with "desire"? They do share the same first couple of letters.

Perhaps you have confused yourself with the kind of person who can make this kind of bold statement without getting laughed at. Go sniff your own farts some more and leave me alone.

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> How do you think they pick the basket?

By looking for consumables that people pay for regularly. Coincidentally, the things people pay for regularly are generally the things they need to live. But that doesn't make it a cost of living index. It is literally a consumer price index. That's what CPI stands for.

> Many categories are included in CPI, such as housing.

Indeed. The consumable portion of housing (rent, interest payments, etc.) is something most people pay for regularly, so it is ripe for inclusion. On the flip side, ignoring that a house isn't normally considered a consumable, most people will buy approximately one in their lifetime so it wouldn't be a great comparator for seeing how an individual perceives a change in value over time.

> it is intended to measure the price increases that consumers experience.

Yes, exactly, a general increase across a wide variety of goods and services comes as the result of a decline in value of the currency. There is no way to determine currency value in a vacuum, but it can be inferred this way. Which, as it happens, is what CPI gives us. Of course, there are other ways to measure inflation. Someone doing economics work will not use just a single measure of inflation as there are pros and cons to different inference methods, but CPI is the method we have settled on for the "official" rate.

> We could get nuanced about it and say that people who can't pay are not market participants, but they could be.

Demand is defined by desire and willingness. It is impossible for someone who cannot pay to have willingness, but anyone could gain the willingness at some point in the future, sure, and should that happen their demand would return. It's not a state forever set in stone. It's a dynamic state where people can come and go as conditions change. But as far as any single point in time goes...