[parpfish]

some gentrifiers are pulled into 'grubby, lively' neighborhood because they're attracted to those qualities. these gentrifiers won't complain and will likely try to preserve those attributes.

but there's another class of gentrifiers that aren't pulled into these neighborhoods. rather, they are pushed out of the places they'd like to live and have to settle for the grubby lively neighborhood. these are the ones that complain because they don't really want to be there in the first place.

people don't like to talk about this distinction because they like to treat all gentrifiers as invaders/colonizers without realizing that many of them are also displaced from their neighborhoods

[jdietrich]

The cheapest flat currently for sale in Soho is listed at £525,000. If someone has been displaced to one of the most expensive neighbourhoods in Europe, I will play them a song on the world's tiniest violin.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/144599747#/

[dijksterhuis]

> but there's another class of gentrifiers that ... are pushed out of the places they'd like to live and have to settle for the grubby lively neighborhood. these are the ones that complain because they don't really want to be there in the first place.

In my experience, these people are fine. They suck it up and get on with it, grateful to not be living in a cupboard... or sofa surfing ... or homeless. Or they move on.

The complaints usually begin with one of

- people who moved to the area after reading a Time Out article about how "cool" the area is

- property developers

- people moving into the new builds built by said property developers

Soho is a bit of an odd one though. Been that way for time.