[jolj]

AP: https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-hos...

CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/cnn-investigat...

Economist: https://www.economist.com/interactive/the-economist-explains...

Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/al-ahli-arab-h...

WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/video/video-analysis-shows-gaza-hospital...

Also worth reading this document straight from Hamas: https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1774437234579558643

[ceejayoz]

None of these actually say Hamas, and the Israelis even blame a different group; Palestinian Jihad.

[jolj]

Yes, this is actually PIJ, I was referring to the colloquial referral as Hamas to all Palestinian organizations in Gaza. Colloquial use that OP seemed to be using.

Also they do coordinate their fighting and if you read the last link also their propaganda

[ceejayoz]

> I was referring to the colloquial referral as Hamas to all Palestinian organizations in Gaza.

This is a pretty big part of the problem, yes.

[jolj]

It's not, before Oct 7 the PIJ was regarded as some different more extreme counterpart to Hamas.

After they fought and coordinated together, raped, massacred and kidnapped, I don't see the difference anymore