[Der_Einzige]

I don’t buy this at all!

Zero calorie sweeteners by definition cannot cause insulin responses.

I can easily verify this by using my families blood glucose monitors before and after I’ve had a diet soda. I’ve done this several times and I have zero increase in blood glucose levels from a Diet Coke. It actually goes down since time passes between me starting the drink and finishing it.

The obsession from even purportedly good doctors with trying to find reasons to vilify anything that might taste good while not spiking glycemic loads is horrifying to witness.

I’m extremely upset, especially as someone with two diabetic parents and a history of diabetes. Both parents are diabetic because they’re fat as hell.

[Jensson]

> It actually goes down

That is what you expect if you raise your insulin, insulin reduce blood glucose, so if the sweetener increased insulin without adding sugar then it reduces blood glucose.

> goes down since time passes between me starting the drink and finishing it.

Blood sugar levels are stable unless you eat sugar, they don't go down over time, unless you do something to add insulin to make it go down or add sugar to make it go up. Here it sounds like you adding insulin when drinking that and thus making it go down.

[Der_Einzige]

Diet soda using a zero calorie sweetener has an insulin index and glycemic index of zero. You’re just wrong.

[Jensson]

You are making the strong statements here, not me, I'm just saying your evidence there wasn't enough to support your strong statements. If you have more evidence such as the insulin index being zero, you should have brought that up.

If the insulin index is 0 then per definition it doesn't increase insulin, yes, but the glycemic index being 0 doesn't say it about insulin, as your post suggest, so your post was definitely wrong. I was not wrong pointing out that your post was wrong.