[logicprog]

Five isn't but fifteen begins to feel like one, because the only practical way to respond is to read the sources and give your own high level conclusions, the same way the person who gave them is doing, but then you'll be accused of not dealing with specifics, and then if you deal with some specifics but not all of them, you'll be accused of not dealing with all of the facts, and so on.

[Intralexical]

I.E.: The more evidence and examples I bring, the more you feel the need to accuse me of speaking in bad faith.

> but then you'll be accused of not dealing with specifics, and then if you deal with some specifics but not all of them, you'll be accused of not dealing with all of the facts, and so on.

Frankly, I think that's a description of what you were apparently attempting to do. For me, it was about the pattern, the damage to communities, and the immediate aggression with which you yourself responded.

You already know you must be right. You just need everybody else to also agree that you are right. How dare I bring pesky reality into the fold.

[logicprog]

> immediate aggression... You already know you must be right. You just need everybody else to also agree that you are right. How dare I bring pesky reality into the fold.

How nice of you to describe yourself :)

Dude, I looked at the evidence you gave me precisely because I thought I might be wrong, and didn't find your description or evaluation of it at all accurate or convincing, and I explained why, and instead of dealing with my reasons you immediately began to abuse me because you assumed that all right thinking empathetic people must agree with you. Like, I absolutely did deal with your facts, I read through many of your sources and gave you a description of why I don't find them convincing, what more do you want me to do, go through them quote by quote? That's precisely what I mean by a Gish gallop. The problem isn't the sheer number of sources, it's the way you're using them to infinitely increase the granularity of the discussion, so that the rhetorical burden on me just expands indefinitely and you can always bring up a new thing and say I haven't dealt with it.