[zb3]

It's the opposite: "professional" php sucks now, with all this overengineering and developers constantly trying to prove how PHP doesn't suck by adding new complexity. "Look, I've overengineered it to death! It's possible in PHP so now you can't say it sucks"

[hu3]

This is true in some aspects.

Instead of a PHP developer many are now calling themselves a Laravel developer because the framework is all they know.

[spdionis]

Laravel and React/Angular developers right?