[kbenson]

I don't know, but I think you and I have vastly different base assumptions.

Its a huge legal liability to have statements about how data won't be used and then use it, when you're a company that might compete in similar spaces, and Microsoft competes almost everywhere.

While I trusted githib when they were independent, I trust this feature from MS owned github more than I would them because the liability misuse opens them up to is so much more. If I was building a product and I was able to prove some MS depot used my info in an unauthorized way to build a product, I could sue that product out of existence, and someone always talks, so MS can't assume it will never be known, and they know that.

[Marsymars]

> Its a huge legal liability to have statements about how data won't be used and then use it, when you're a company that might compete in similar spaces, and Microsoft competes almost everywhere.

Almost everywhere in tech, but almost nowhere outside of tech. I work for a large non-tech conglomerate, and as far as I'm aware, we don't compete with any MS products/services.

[jmole]

Yeah, but look at this through the lens of enshittification.

Microsoft will sell "Copilot enterprise" to companies that can afford to negotiate. But every individual out there on a normal subscription gets data mined.

OpenAI is similar - you can't negotiate a "no-logs" deal with them unless you are a player the size of say, Epic (the health industry giant).

[airstrike]

> OpenAI is similar - you can't negotiate a "no-logs" deal with them unless you are a player the size of say, Epic (the health industry giant).

OpenAI's API license states that they won't use your data to train models, if that's any consolation. Unlike ChatGPT

[vundercind]

I mean “here’s some telemetry (spying) data on your employees, in a nice little dashboard”

[kbenson]

Ah, that makes more sense. I was misinterpreting corporate Spyware and corporate espionage. I imagine providing additional info to employers is something MS would offer as a value add to organizations using this, but that's sort of expected with all organization based tooling in my eyes.

Dont use your personal account for work, and don't assume any service you use for work provided by work isn't giving data on you to you employer, and if at all possible try to work for a company that cares what you deliver and not how you do it (meaning they aren't micromanage, not that they want you to skirt laws.. ). Some of those are obviously easier than others to control.