[radoomi]

The way I see it is what Waymo + others (and even Tesla until last year pre v12) was the same as someone doing ChatGPT but not with generative transformers but with if statements. If user asks what is that, say this, etc.

And now Tesla changed the game completely and moved to a 100% NN based system which indeed requires huge amounts of data which they're the only who actually have. All the other companies have no chance of getting that unless they fit their cars with thousands of dollars of gear for free (because I think no one would pay extra to get it and they really need it in ALL cars).

So it's probably not a good idea in terms of monopoly, but I think it will be Tesla FSD that gets integrated in all the other brands.

[rafaelmn]

Because I would want to put a NN as unreliable as GPT4 in control of my car ... They are struggling to put in guardrails and make it politically correct with text.

I guess AI truly is the new crypto because I'm seeing all the same hype patterns. And Tesla is always riding the wave.

[michaelmior]

I've heard from several folks working on self driving outside of Tesla that they're very concerned about how cavalier Tesla is being about safety. I recall hearing one story about an engineer who outright refused to ride in a Tesla with FSD enabled. All anecdotal, sure, but I've become very skeptical of Tesla's approach.

[speedgoose]

> They are struggling to put in guardrails and make it politically correct with text.

Are they? It’s quite hard to get politically incorrect outputs from ChatGPT nowadays.

[acdha]

How many things does it not talk about? One of the challenges of self-driving is that it has to fail safely so they have to handle all of these uncommon situations a chatbot can just give up on.