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by idl8t3 782 days ago
- The creator received a letter from YouTube's legal team regarding the GRJ app, which they claim violates YouTube's terms of service.

- The creator, representing Futo, responded by stating that the GRJ app does not use the YouTube API services and is therefore not subject to those terms of service.

- The creator expresses frustration with how YouTube and other platforms often arbitrarily delete creator accounts and content, threatening people's livelihoods.

- The creator sees the GRJ app as a solution to help creators connect with their audience even if their accounts are deleted from platforms.

- The creator is critical of how the more users are willing to pay for content and software, the worse the experience and more abuse they face.

- The creator shares a personal example of being unable to play downloaded YouTube content offline, despite paying for YouTube Premium.

- The creator is done accepting the concept that the more one gives, the worse the treatment they receive in return.

- The creator states they have the resources and intention to legally fight YouTube over the GRJ app, unlike "four kids in a college dorm room."

- The creator emphasizes that Futo is a serious company, not just a hobby project, and is willing to spend significant money on legal representation.

- The creator is committed to continuing to offer the GRJ app to serve their customers, despite YouTube's demands to cease and desist.
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rerdavies 782 days ago
Presumably, this app, by Futo: https://grayjay.app/#sources
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1oooqooq 782 days ago
they incorrectly (malicious?) claim "available on fdroid" and point to a way to add their custom repository.

that's not cool. i would much prefer, since they are not two kids in a college dorm, they worked with fdroid to get properly vetted and included.

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4oo4 781 days ago
Having custom f-droid repositories isn't that unusual or necessarily malicious. For example the microG project has its own f-droid repo. iirc there's some overhead with getting something into f-droid since they have their own build process, versus just uploading an APK, which might be why they chose that.

https://microg.org/download.html

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simfree 781 days ago
Just look at how out of date NewPipe is in F-Droid, it's maintainer just isn't motivated to get new versions of the app building on F-Droid's servers, leaving end users with a half year out of date client that is unreliable to use.
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4oo4 781 days ago
Not sure what you mean, 0.27.0 was released on f-droid last week, same as the latest github tag:

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

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simfree 780 days ago
Scroll down the page please and note the prior F-Droid release was Version 0.25.2 (994) - Added on Aug 10, 2023

All of the v26 releases are missing. F-Droid's maintainers just did not build or publish these, leaving F-Droid users with a broken app since early December 2023 until 2 weeks ago, basically 5 months of shipping an app that did not consistently work.

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