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by defrost 775 days ago
Many of the girls|women in my part of the world would rather go freediving for crayfish and eat them on the beach than hang out in a chain resturant.

https://youtu.be/yk6wa0YcUN0?t=60

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Where I grew up, crayfish are freshwater mudbugs; those would be rock lobsters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg .

Also where I grew up, we had a "baseball analogy" for dating, in which running the bases proceeds more or less as follows:

1st base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kTor63Ihw

2nd base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHOo_b6Gn4c

3rd base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

home run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo

So I would say (referring to the diving video!) that fingers in wet crevices and feeling around would be 3rd while sticking spears in and suddenly releasing tension would defo be a home run.

In countries that don't really have baseball as a sport that anyone plays, does the same pattern apply? Are there different analogies, perhaps involving "silly mid ons" or "brexit tackles"?

Aren't you special
Yeah, you know, sometimes HN really surprises me with the stances people have on dating.

I remember reading someone saying literally "it's just not possible to find a good-looking girlfriend before graduating college". I was like, what? This statement offends the whole humanity, and also offends me as a man. And yeah, I care to explain why. It's just basically a more covert way of saying that "all women are, err, for the lack of better term, golddiggers, and all men want a partner who will offer them no more than sex". I sure get the evolutionary take on mate selection but even if one really understands it, one will know that the reality is much more complex that that.

Not particularly .. why do you think that?

As stated above, first dates at resturants, etc aren't for everybody.

No one cares

> He was “funny, romantic, the most sensitive man I’ve ever met,” Wainscott later told the Charlotte Observer. “The guy that every girl would want.”

Then they started having dinners at Red Lobster - presumably that’s what she wanted, and a popular preference? Who cares if other people prefer free diving?

The conversation moved on from TFA, eg:

> I'm not entirely convinced that dinners at Red Lobster are what "every girl wants".

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40233023 cares.

Yes, and that commenter sounds like a snobby elitist douchebag.

I know we're not supposed to go for the ad hominem, but I'm honestly not sure that comment warrants anything better.

A coffee or beer can be slammed quickly compared to waiting for and eating a meal.

Sometimes you wanna get out asap.

Reflecting upon this a bit more, perhaps something that helps in our parts of the world is that restaurants are not segmented by price point. For instance, at lunch time everyone goes to the restaurants close by, but apprentices and street workers take the meal of the day, while the office workers order from the menu.

So chain restaurants are really something that typically occur only in the same sorts of areas as big box stores, aiming at a similar demographic.

Haha, definitely. People come in different varieties. Even better you've linked to some evidence confirming that ;)
FWiW that comment of mine has gotten more bounce (up|down votes) than pretty much any other I've made here.

I'm > 60 and gone out on a lot of first dates over the decades, rarely to a resturant or a movie (I mean we have them here in W.Australia but of all the many ways to get to know a person these are not the best choices).

The Miss Manners approach to dating served me well:

All dates have three elements: food, entertainment, and affection. A first date should have plenty of entertainment and only a hint of affection. At some point, the affection becomes the entertainment, but under no circumstances may the food be omitted.

Dating/flirting on a full stomach is more likely to happen than on an empty stomach.

Exhibit A :)

https://www.pon.harvard.edu/daily/business-negotiations/in-b...

Aka the "hungry judge effect": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_judge_effect. But it's not like you can only fill your stomach up at a fancy restaurant (neither that you claim that nor that I find it being something bad).
FWIW, the hungry judge effect is almost certainly nonsense.

The original research assumed the case were randomly ordered, and so everyone should have an equal shot at parole—-but they weren’t! Instead, all the cases from one particular prison were heard together, with breaks usually occurring between prisons. Within a prison, cases were arranged by lawyer, with prisoners representing themselves going last. If people without professional representation fare worse (and they do), then…that’s the whole effect. PNAS published a “rebuttal” article where someone actually interviewed court staff who reported this, but it’s been cited like…70 times vs thousands for the original article.

There are other reasons to think the original result wasn’t true too. The “effect” didn’t occur when considering wall-time (i.e., judges were similarly severe at 9:30 and 11:30), only order (first vs last), but you’d expect hunger, blood sugar, etc to track time elapsed.

Sorry for the aside, but the fact that people still cite this drives me nuts.