[lambdaxyzw]

>It’s only after the fall of the Soviet Union that shit with plastic poured into. As well with the fall of recycling, morals, etc.

Soviet Union was green not because of morals, but because it was poor and couldn't afford single use packages. I remember when Nutella entered my country, the empty Nutella jars were washed, kept and used as glasses for drinking - because buying new glasses was hard or expensive.

>And yes, most glasses have never been stolen.

I assume that's only because they were chained and in crowded places. Whole eastern Europe of that time was a thief paradise with casual theft almost completely normalized. (source: I am from Eastern Europe)

[piskov]

Single-use packaging is just waste. Poor or not is irrelevant.

That’s why it so ironic sometimes to see west slowly turning into soviet union :-)

From recycling to cancel culture, just with 100 years of delay

[TeMPOraL]

Poland here, we still do the thing with Nutella glasses. Not because we can't afford glassware, but rather because why on Earth would you throw away a perfectly good glass?

What GP described might have been first and foremost the signs of a poor society, but then this only gives credence to the whole "decadent rich" line. Single-use plastics are a sign of a lazy and wasteful society.

[netsharc]

> couldn't afford single use packages

I'm glad we live in the 21st century where we can afford single use packages. It will only cost us our civilization: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/?int...

[seszett]

> the empty Nutella jars were washed, kept and used as glasses for drinking - because buying new glasses was hard or expensive.

I think it's quite common and not especially linked to poverty.

For the smaller containers with a snap on lid only though, because the large Nutella jars with a screw on lid are unsuitable for glasses, but they can contain sauces, paint, screws or nails.

[piskov]

> the empty Nutella jars were washed, kept and used as glasses for drinking - because buying new glasses was hard or expensive.

You do understand that sand is one of the most common things on earth (hence the glass is dirt-cheap).

Just as an example of those mentioned faceted glasses: their price was 7 or 14 copecks (good thing every one of them had the price stamped on the bottom). It’s less than the price of bread.

The only thing I could imagine about those Nutella being used as glasses is common “this is a thing from the coveted west”.

[kube-system]

> You do understand that sand is one of the most common things on earth (hence the glass is dirt-cheap).

If only it worked this way I could finally afford a 4090

[DiggyJohnson]

There's almost never a reason to start your comment with "You do understand..."?

There's a lot that goes into the cost of a good rather than the value of the raw ingredients.

[vwelling]

Well actually...

We're doing a pretty good job of making it a lot less common: https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/problem-our-dwin...

There's even such a thing as Sand Theft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_theft

[bombcar]

Nice beach sand and glass-making sand are quite different; glass-making sand doesn't have to be nice and smooth.

[TeMPOraL]

Concrete-making sand on the other hand...