[627467]

the problem with EUropeans is not work ethics. is lack of ambition, dreams, drive. the existing work ethics is perfectly fine for this, why work more for no reason.

we can also discuss the causes for this lacking. it's probably a mix of coasting and entitlement but lately I just think it's due to the mud, the institutional and social swamp that EUrope has become. you can observe paralysis at all levels.

to the question: which is better? my view: the one that lets you have more of the other.

[bdjsiqoocwk]

European here. I agree with lack of ambition, at least if were talking about averages and comparing to America.

> due to the mud, the institutional and social swamp that EUrope has become

But this, I'd like to know what you're talking about. I've lived in the US, the US gov is worse than the average EU government at least from the pov of a citizen having to interact with it. When people complain about EU institutions I wonder if they're just regurgitating talking points they've heard somewhere. And don't tell me about gov efficiency either - how many hundreds of billions does the Pentagon "misplace" every year?

[aixpert]

Most ambition was crushed by industrial sabotage and the Silicon Valley monopoly mafia combined with talent drain.

[trueismywork]

Yes at a systems level

[thefz]

> the problem with EUropeans is not work ethics. is lack of ambition, dreams, drive

For all of them? You met them all?