[sandieman]

Steve sold blue boxes with Wozniak that allowed you to make unlimited phone calls. They profited 6k from this and is often told as the story that set the bond and precedent on how the two worked together.

This cost the phone companies and was an illegal item that they sold on the "underground market"

If Steve didn't partner with Wozniak would Apple be around today? Doubt it.

Was this more immoral then sleeping on AOLs couches for a few months after your incubator ended? I would say so.

[nupark2]

That neither proves that unethical behavior was required for Apple's success, nor that said bond could only be created through unethical behavior. If you want a recrimination of that behavior, I'd be happy to give it. It was immature and wrong.