[Workaccount2]

But their consumer sales have collapsed, the market has more competitors than ever, and the second hand market is flooded with cheap model 3's.

[theultdev]

Isn't that a good thing that the market is flooded with cheap model 3's?

That's the goal isn't it? Cheaper EVs for everyone to replace ICE cars?

I keep hearing about competitors, but I never see any of their EVs, new or used. I see Teslas everywhere.

And cheap model 3's may "hurt" Tesla, but it hurts every other EV maker too. Good for the consumer though.

[ChrisMarshallNY]

> I keep hearing about competitors, but I never see any of their EVs, new or used. I see Teslas everywhere.

Around these parts, we see a lot of non-Tesla electrics. Many of them are not obvious at all, until you realize that an SUV has a Clean Pass sticker, and no tailpipes.

But there are also many 3s and Ys. I think, for a time, Tesla was the biggest-selling brand in the US.

[BoorishBears]

Was that accounting for rental deals?

[ChrisMarshallNY]

Probably. I just read it, somewhere. Didn't really give it much thought.

[Symbiote]

There are plenty of other cars, but most of them look a lot like normal cars so maybe you don't notice them.

Statistics for the EU, EV sales in January 2024: https://alternative-fuels-observatory.ec.europa.eu/general-i...

[philosopher1234]

You can thank tariffs on China for that. In China, Tesla is beat out by higher quality, cheaper competition.

[theultdev]

Yes Chinese EVs are Tesla's only real competitor, I don't dispute that.

But what's the excuse for the other American EV companies?