[nikolay]

Why now call it Snowflakes given:

    Kindness
    The project should be welcoming and a safe place for people to participate.

I'm puzzled how overly sensitive the new generation of humans is! This the the opposite of stoicism and resilience!

[viraptor]

Seeing an issue, working to resolve it, then making the environment better for others takes resilience. Stoicism and resilience does not mean rolling over and accepting bad things because problems in your life are not solvable.

[nikolay]

There's a vast difference between "working to solve it" and "forking it"!

The younger generations do not get the concept of "respect"! They need to respect those who've done the most work and not feel entitled that a small contribution to something makes them equal rights owners!

[viraptor]

This is not some sudden issue people are overreacting to by forking. The discussions have been going on for months/years depending on which specific issue you're taking about. What you see now is the culmination of "we've tried to fix this, but the only remaining option we see is to fork". The "younger generations do not get ..." is a silly trope. https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-a...

If you're actually interested in the non-forking ways to fix it, what are your views on the relevant RFCs proposed and the outcome of those? What's the process you're thinking of that people have missed so far?

[nikolay]

I agreed with OpenTofu as then, without any doubt, a fork was needed. I agreed with the fork of Redis - there's no doubt there was no other way to make things "work out." I agreed with OpenSearch fork as well! But forking Nix is a sign of immaturity or lack of emotional resilience and nothing more! Any issue between reasonable people could be resolved by a productive dialog. If a person is intelligent enough to have such a vast contribution to such a great project, then they are a reasonable person, and a dialog is possible. "Where there's a will, there's a way."

[_cenw]

I agree, everyone should be walking across burning coals barefoot every day to get to work, let alone volunteer their time to an open source project.

[nikolay]

Maybe they should find another project to contribute to. And, yeah, this is how we dance in Bulgaria [0] - on embers!

[0]: https://nestinari.bg/en/history/

[_cenw]

Why would they find another project? Are you under the assumption these are not established members of the Nix community complaining, but some "invaders" as alluded to in the RFC 175 supplements? Because that's untrue. Many have been putting up with the deteriorating situation for years, very stoic, but not healthy or fun.

[nikolay]

Many had issues with Linus Torvalds as well - there's nothing new under the sun!

[davidgerard]

you're complaining that they literally started another project to contribute to.

[nikolay]

There's a difference about "starting anew" and "forking." As I mentioned, many projects have no option due to licensing changes, but they should try harder to fix the personal issues.

[jubalfh]

how old are you, nikita, 12?