[aerojoe23]

Sadly you'll have to checkout of more than just "online" life if you want to avoid "corporations trying to watch and make money from everything we do."

Newer model car's track your driving, and most manufactures sell it to insurance companies. I'm not sure I read it anywhere but I bet they sell your location data as well and not just driving habits.

For the longest time stores have loyalty discount programs to track your purchasing behavior.

The cellphone in your pocket...

[VelesDude]

The cellphone is the one that concerns me personally the most. Even then I have locked that down as much as is viable. No needless apps. Deifnetly no social media. But there is still just the fact a locked baseband processor, operating system that you cannot fully verify and that mobile towers literally need to vaguely track you to function.

I also don't drive (never have) or have any loyalty programs. Only pay in cash unless forced otherwise. That said here is Australia some stores just use facial recognition - so that sort of defeats that a little. They paused it for a little while a few years back but I believe it is back in action now.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-15/choice-investigation-...

I'm not saying everyone can do this, far from it, but I choose to live by example. Maybe show others that you can at least shift your wants slightly. You move towards the ideal of utopia but do not expect to arrive there.

[blackfawn]

I've been looking into replacing a very old vehicle and it's super disheartening seeing all the telemetry and shady communication you have no control over on new vehicles. And it seems 100% across the board if you look at EVs. As appealing it might be to have an EV, the telemetry, snooping, forced updates, etc. are an immediate turnoff.

I know a few people with EVs and it seems like I'm always hearing "the latest update broke X" or "all my settings changed again"