[firebaze]

Maybe we should consider starting over again in that case. Wayland increasingly appears to be supported by a sunk cost fallacy itself - the A11Y issues are not fixable in the base architecture, which means that every Wayland DM implementation needs to implement them again, which in turn means lots of different APIs, incompatibilities and so on.

[Vilian]

go ahead them, show was how to make a good screen protocol that is as secure as wayland, and flexible, and one that support every type of screen, from cellphones, to VR, to desktop, go ahead, i'm waiting, show how these wayland normies(x11 too, they are the same people) how to make a protocol