[JojoFatsani]

(I have no idea what your infra is so don’t take this as prescriptive)

My feeling is that for the average company operating in a (single) cloud, there’s no reason to use vault when you can just used AWS Secret Manager or the equivalent in azure or GCE and not have to worry about fucking Etcd quorums and so forth. Just make simple api calls with the IAM creds you already have.

[leetrout]

Caveat: the HCP hosted vault is reasonably priced and works well.

However, strong agree on using your home cloud's service.

We used Vault with Heroku and were happy.

[candiddevmike]

> Caveat: the HCP hosted vault is reasonably priced and works well.

HCP hosted Vault starts at ~$1200/month, you'd have to use a metric shit ton of secrets in AWS or GCP to come close to that amount. Yes Vault does more than just secrets, but claiming anything HC sells as reasonably priced is a reach.

[leetrout]

Ah, they have changed the public pricing page. Maybe we were on a grandfathered in deal. They had a starter package between free and enterprise with configurable cluster options that was $60ish a month. We heavily used the policies, certs and organization features that made it a no brainer for that price point for things outside AWS like Heroku.

We were running about $12/mo in aws secrets with no caching and no usage outside our aws services. I taught the team how to cache the secrets in the lambda function and it dropped to a buck a month or less.

If they killed off the starter package then you are right, there are only outrageous options and HCP would not be worth considering for small orgs.

[elzbardico]

This^ Unless you're a hybrid/multiple cloud environment, there's no much point in using Vault.

[JohnMakin]

ime that’s a way better product to use for secrets management unless you’re trying to do very advanced CA stuff.