[gooseyman]

Small claims court is the future of airline customer service.

My dad recently filed in small claims for lost luggage after the realization there was no phone number for a human to speak with as everything is “live” chat where each chat takes ten minutes for a response. The check came in the mail days after notification of filing.

Granted it was a budget airline, but it’s not that different from waiting on hold to get transferred.

[sakjur]

I have a similar experience, where I was originally denied a refund I was entitled to per EU’s passenger’s rights regulation (261/2004) and reported it to the national ombudsman for consumer rights and having them agree to pay up immediately.

This was also a budget airline (Norwegian). I’m pretty sure they’re trying to deny claims as a rule. They were making an excuse that isn’t a valid force majeure (the airplane needed emergency servicing).

My experience with Scandinavian has been the exact opposite, I pretty much just inform them of which flight I was on and that I’m interested in compensation and that’s it. Though this was pre-COVID and reconstruction.

[kylehotchkiss]

I had no idea small claims court could be so productive. Did you write your own petition or did you use a service to help compile it? Do you have to handle giving the receiving party their documents or does the court do that?

[ipnon]

Small claims court is slow and laborious for all parties. Airlines have realized it’s better for their bottom line to just settle immediately out of court once they receive a small claims summons.

[amelius]

Would it be legal for an airline to refuse doing business with you after you have claimed your money back once?

[Der_Einzige]

Eventually they'll learn how to counter sue and use the full power of their legal team to make an example out of what they regard as "peons with delusions of grandeur".

You laugh, but similar stuff has happened in the context of IP/Patent law. de facto retaliation is real in the legal system

[15155]

Civil court filing fees to remove the case will cost hundreds. Airlines do not have the margins to sustain that type of campaign.

[account42]

This is why some places require an actual company representative and not just a contracted lawyer to appear for small claims court. Helps even the scales a bit.

[hnbear]

Having used small claims a couple of times I’ve found it easy enough to write the petition. Small claims is designed to be lawyer free. There are gotchas but the judges seem to be more lenient. I’m not a lawyer and don’t have much court experience, but it was really not that hard to research and write. If you’re that interested I’d share the doc with you.

Using experience in NJ and CT the processes were similar.

You find the docs on the court system website and write out your petition then file it. You also need to deliver it to the other party and provide evidence of delivery to the court but that’s just USPS signature-required mail.

You can request cost of the filing in your claim too, and it was ~$70 to file.

I had to use it with landlords to get back security deposits. Well worth the $70 and a couple of hours of time.

[aembleton]

In the UK, I went through the small claims court because my wifes phone stopped working as a phone after just two years and one moth. I just filled it out online here: https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/make-claim

Didn't get as far as court as I went to mediation and got a settlement. Worked out well; would definitely do it again.