[minebreaker]

> A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter

Citation needed.

Most Japanese illustrators do not care about the US/EU, and many of them even hate gaijins. If you haven't noticed, anti-Americanism is very strong on the Japanese internet.

[resfirestar]

Not sure what you're on about, it has nothing to do with being anti-American or not. Twitter is where everyone in Japanese creative industries posts about their work (unlike the West that didn't change when Musk bought the site), it's where the Japanese audience is, and it doesn't hurt that the global audience is there too.

But sure, if you want examples of this trend try searching Pixiv by title for stuff like "twitterまとめ" [1], " or "Xまとめ" [2], meaning a usually monthly compilation of illustrations that were posted to Twitter first. And that doesn't even get into the artists that stopped using Pixiv completely because they got bored of it or their account was banned.

[1] https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/twitterまとめ/artworks?mode=safe&... (apparently these links don't capture the fact that it's a title search and not a tag search, you have to be logged in and set it manually)

[2] https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/Xまとめ/artworks?mode=safe&s_mode...

[minebreaker]

Well, they still multipost on Twitter, but AFAICT it's getting unpopular these days. Tough I agree that Pixiv is not as popular as its old days too.

By "anti-Americanism", I'm insisting that a good number of Japanese anime artists see the ban as a beneficial feature, not a disadvantage. They would see this as an automated "Sorry, Japanese Only" filter.

[dotnet00]

I think the anti-Americanism among artists only relates to not wanting to deal with hypocritical American policies on nudity and their tendency to impose their views on everyone.

They're very likely perfectly fine with Americans and foreigners in general seeing and sharing work without trying to change the culture of the site (which is fair and something more communities need to start expecting, there's an increasingly popular idea that various hobbies have been ruined by uninvested "tourists" that come into the community, force it to change to accomodate them, then leave after the original audience has been alienated).

[minebreaker]

I don't know. Maybe I've spent too much time on the worst part of the Japanese internet. Not about Pixiv, but the kicking out of Dlsite by Mastercard caused so much anger among them.

The social divide is getting really worrying these days.

[dotnet00]

That's actually exactly the incident I was thinking of, my interpretation of the reaction to it was everyone being frustrated at American companies forcing their beliefs on everyone again, rather than being happy that American consumers were having it harder. It could also just be that my little circle is a niche within a niche though.

[anigbrowl]

unpopular these days

Compared to what? Line, or do you have something else in mind?

[minebreaker]

I don't think there's an outstandingly popular one. Multiposting to get as many audiences as possible is norm these days. Sites like DMM, Fantia or Skeb are strong, but I don't think any of them get the particular traction.

Besides, LINE is extremely unpopular among otaku in Japan (yes, racism).

[koito17]

This is rude, but I think the reason its unpopular is otaku often have no friends. Even then, I have found plenty of open chats with otaku. There is exactly one person I know who refuses to use LINE for being owned by Naver. I think the most common reason is not having friends. Racism is probably the next reason.

[snvzz]

Proprietary and without e2ee is why I refuse to use it.

[koito17]

I think it depends on which slice of the Japanese internet. The こどおじ who discuss politics all day match your description. Other people, not so much. The statement about not caring about US/EU is true, however. I think most of HN is unaware that many Japanese sites take one step further and block all non-Japanese traffic.

[minebreaker]

Fair enough, but I assume the ben diagram of the anime fans and the こどおじ are largely overlapping.