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by Zambyte 780 days ago
Is the IDE a primary input for building the program? Is the IDE a build dependency? Probably not. Certainly not based on the situation you described.

The LLM equivalent here would be programmatically generating synthetic input or cleaning input for training. You don't need the tools used to generate or clean the data in order to train the model, and thus they can be propriety in the context of an open source model, so long as the source for the model is open (the training data).
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ko27 780 days ago
> Is the IDE a primary input for building the program? Is the IDE a build dependency?

No, the same way training is not a build dependency for the weights source code. You can literally compile and run them without any training data.

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Zambyte 780 days ago
Training data is a build dependency for the weights. You cannot realistically get the same weights without the same training data.
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ko27 780 days ago
Developer's mindset, knowledge and tooling is also a build dependency for any open source code. You can not realistically get the same code without it.
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Zambyte 780 days ago
> you can not realistically get the same code without it

You mean the same source code? Because... I agree. That's why it's important for the source to be open. Both in the context of software and language models.

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