[akmiller]

Why are people building frameworks to sit on top of yet another framework to try to write cleaner more maintainable code???

What is wrong with writing your core application logic physically removed from any of these frameworks. Why do people insist on fitting their application into the Rails framework or any other web framework.

Write your core application code in Ruby (or your language of choice), package it in another gem, use tools and patterns we've had all along to plug that code into a dependency for persistence (if needed)...communicate with it through a standard API that you define for your delivery mechanism (i.e. Rails).

I just don't get this idea of trying to contain my application code within the confines of a specific framework.