[Voultapher]

> I am trying to understand whether it's considered to be the same or different.

Why does it matter in this conversation?

If you want an ethical discussion about a mildly related topic, please find someone else to have it with. I'm not interested in having that discussion with you here.

[throwaway11460]

It matters because it interests me. You're not the only user of this forum. No need to reply to me.