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by eclipsetheworld 791 days ago
> [...] Meta (or Facebook) democratises AI/ML much more than OpenAI, which was originally founded and primarily funded for this purpose. [...]

I believe this statement is accurate. Your comment does not alter this fact and merely imposes an arbitrary requirement instead of giving credit where credit is due.

If another company were to openly share alternatives to Meta's core assets, I would welcome that as well.

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Facebook may be doing the right thing in this case, but for wrong reasons.

If a restaurant chain with deep pockets opens a restaurant in your area and starts selling food at a loss (because they can afford to do so, at least short term) in order to kill your beloved local mom and pop restaurants, should they be praised for it? This is how Walmart built their empire destroying countless small family owned businesses. The difference in the AI business is the scale of the fight. There are just no good guys in this, Facebook or OpenAI.

This is just a ruthless commercial move, not done out of the goodness of Mark's heart.

Walmart getting that rep is so odd to me.

I read the Sam Walton autobiography and providing low cost goods with lots of options was one of the key benefits they provided smaller towns in Arkansas. The other chains couldn't operate at a profit due to the smaller customer base.

He was constantly trying to optimize his stores and dropping in on his locations daily. Because they were oroginally so far apart, in order to save driving time he learned to fly a plane and would just land in the field behind the store.

Constantly shopping competitors to see what they are doing better and how he could improve.

Originally store staff and towns welcomed the stores and him with open arms.

How times change.

IKEA selling cheap food in their restaurants is actually a rather fair comparison, and one they were criticised for on several occasions.

We do have some legislation that tries to prevent businesses for selling things under the cost to combat this.

The META IKEA is giving away free, high qualit food across the entire economy is the better equivalent.
Your comparison with local mom and pop restaurants doesn't make sense because Meta competes with the likes of openAI, Microsoft, Amazon, Google.
So what? The alternative is ClosedAI who will never ever ever release anything meaningful in terms of foundation models
> If another company were to openly share alternatives to Meta's core assets, I would welcome that as well.

Metas core asset is human attention. "Sharing" it means selling ads. I don't think there is an open model to that — just giving away access to users is probably not it — but that's only one of many problems with "sharing" attention.

Like I said, it won't happen (for various reasons). So while it's cool that in theory we just want everything to be more open, and celebrate Meta for doing that where they do, and asking for more where they don't, my original point stands.