[drewbug01]

> Now, as for that data, it exists

No one ever wants to provide it, though.

> cant read at all when they enter.

That's a pretty important confounding factor, don't you think? Might that change the way one should interpret the data - knowing that kids weren't starting at a level playing field, but in fact playing catch-up from the beginning?

> To CPS's credit they do pretty decently taking all these kids who are far behind and brining them almost to grade level, but its just hard for me to say thats a huge accomplishment when tons of kids are still so far behind.

What precisely do you expect a school district to do? If kids are behind, it's going to take more time and effort to get them up to speed and there are only so many hours in a day; only so many days in a year; only so many years before the kids leave at 18. Sounds like you expect a miracle, and I don't think any other district could do what you're expecting either.

CPS does a pretty damn good job, even by your own account.

[HDThoreaun]

My biggest problem with CPS is that a quarter of the highschoolers in the district opted out for charter schools, the vast majority of them poor. This happened because parents realized that many schools in CPS are incapable of proving their kid with a decent learning environment. Tbh I don t really think theres much CPS can do about that since I mostly blame parenting, but I think its a huge problem that a quarter of families here just noped the fuck out of the public school system.

The high schools are definitely where CPS has major issues I agree that the elementary schools are on the right track.