[lopkeny12ko]

Quite disappointing to see. I respected Framework a lot as an upstart in the hardware space. What's wrong with responsibly building a sustainable business model? Why the "growth at any cost" mindset? The moment you accept VC funds, they'll expect a return on their investment, giving way to inevitable enshittification of products.

[ZephyrBlu]

What? The 2nd paragraph explains that they already raised VC a couple of years ago, and how are you expecting a hardware startup to get off the ground without VC funding?

The founder has also just chimed in to mention that they don't need the funding, which is ideal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40132713

[stagger87]

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but you won't find much sympathy for this viewpoint on this forum :)