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by ugur2nd 784 days ago
Similar is the case with apps like Uber Eats and Getir. I only know that in Getir they use different algorithms with artificial intelligence to find the shortest and fastest route. I'm sure other vehicles also use it, but I haven't heard such rumors about them.
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You don't use "artificial intelligence" for routing. You've just fallen to marketing speak.
Pathfinding algorithms are absolutely artificial intelligence. A* and so on were invented in just that sort of research.

It may not be AGI, but that was never claimed.

If I write an if statement, is that AI?
No, but if you wrote a thousand if statements two decades ago it might be.
IMO, what counts as "AI" is one of those "I know it when I see it" things, simply because trying to write a lawyer-proof definition isn't possible.

I'd argue that "AI" doesn't have to be attempting to achieve AGI to be considered AI. For example, "Computer" players in games are AI. This applies whether you're talking something as advanced as a deep strategy game like the Civ series, or something as basic as the ghosts in Pac-Man, or even an automated Tic-Tac-Toe player.

So...is a path finding algorithm "AI"? I dunno. I could go either way.

But like...I seriously can't come up with a real definition of "AI" that wouldn't end up including things that definitely aren't AI. For example, is AI simply any code that seems like it has agency and makes decisions? If so, then is any sort program that triggers execution based on certain detections "AI"? Certainly not. Is it code that attempts to mimic human behavior, even at a basic level? If so, then is AutoHotKey AI? Nope, definitely not.

In the end, it’s all jumps, adds, flips and shifts.
> Getir they use different algorithms with artificial intelligence to find the shortest and fastest route

Were they that desperate for funding that they had to come up with some AI stuff for an already solved problem?

Not entirely the same thing but navigation and path finding for delivery apps is not a solved problem everywhere.

Especially in places where street data isn't complete or works differently (no street names) than in the western cities where Google Maps etc. are developed.

Grab (https://engineering.grab.com) always has interesting blog posts about these topics like: https://engineering.grab.com/road-localisation-grabmaps

> Were they that desperate for funding that they had to come up with some AI stuff for an already solved problem?

Path finding is one of the classic AI research areas, back when it mostly meant making robots able to interact with their environment. Yes, it's an "already solved problem", in that we already have several good enough algorithms derived from all that AI research; but that doesn't change the fact that this is "AI stuff", and it doesn't prevent new AI approaches from being used (perhaps something based on neural networks as a path finding heuristic, since we have a lot of computing power to spare nowadays).

OK, I'm imagining some system just painting a large green arrow onto the windshield, so the driver can just Crazy Taxi their way to the destination.
I was just thinking about Crazy Taxi the other day. It doesn't seem quite so "crazy" now, more a real satire on the gig economy.