[bjplink]

Your reply just reiterates my point because you're doing the same thing the post author does. In between the talk of version control, his post is laced with allusions that people working with technologies he doesn't (PHP & mySQL in this case) are a bunch of dumb baddies.

Why would someone possibly care enough to go out of there way to write a blog post condemning them. I just don't get it. This seems like a popular tactic in the Ruby and Python communities although it's toned down enough over the last few years that I thought this movement was about over. This post just helped remind me it isn't.

[jcroft]

For the record, I use MySQL every day and still do some PHP work. So maybe you don't know as much as you think you do about me.

[Pewpewarrows]

It's no use debating with someone that absolutely refuses to admit the possibility that their tools are sub-par.

If your feelings get hurt: good. Maybe if it happens enough times you'll move on to better tools and technologies, you'll have an easier time building better products, and your customers will be more happy.

[ivyirwin]

I'm shocked at the disdain people on HN have for certain tools. I was always taught that it's not the tool, it's how you use it. I think Panic is a perfect example of that axiom. Their website (at least the older versions) has been emulated by web developers many times over. They were one of the first sites I know that enabled drag and drop icons to download files; they nailed scrolling content with tab browsing, and everyone quickly copied it. I assume they use their own tools, so while it may not sound like a cutting edge tool, they are certainly able to produce cutting edge results.

[chrisrogers]

PHP is like the old rusting hand saw to Python/Ruby/etc's laser-guided table saw.

Sure, we're all cutting wood. But some of us are doing it with faster and safer tools. Maybe the consumer doesn't notice the difference, but the carpenter sure as hell does.

[ChrisLTD]

Building on the LAMP stack is still worthwhile when you don't have the time or money to devote to sysadmin tasks.

I use Rails, Django, raw PHP, whatever makes the most sense for the job at hand.